If asked by the US government, with Atsuko’s blessing, should we support the use of the Doge image for the Department of Government Efficiency given they publicly recognize our stewardship of the Doge IP?
An example of how they could do this is post on X from one of the official accounts and say 'Thank you @ownthedoge and @kabosumama for allowing us to use the image."
One, I think this could be the biggest decision our Doge DAO could make.
Two, it shows how a decentralized Doge fan community can direct the use of the Doge IP in novel ways, on chain, via a Snapshot vote.
Would love to hear everyone’s thoughts on this, and if there’s enough support, move to putting up a Snapshot vote on Monday.
100% yes.
This will be for a greater recognition for us and all of the good we have done so far.
Finally getting the official recognition and separation from all the other DOG coins.
Even if it’s a free licensing, the recognition and branding alone is enough for us IMO.
Looking forward to the vote
If asked, with Atsuko’s blessing, then yes of course. I second that motion . Even if it’s a zero royalty deal, with some reasonable usage stipulations or whatever makes sense depending on what options can be negotiated, if it even gets that far.
I have a feeling they’ll probably just use other Shiba images (I’m also not sure what kind of name/image/likeness criteria is in the license agreement) so who knows… but from the sound of it, the dept. of gov. efficiency should be a force for good, to reform a bloated and broken system and return more power to the ppl, so to me it seems like a good fit.
Personally, I’d be happy to see them use the image as much as they want for official govt. business, but set up a royalty deal for merch that could be used to help fund the dept. and make it that much more beneficial for everyone. I know Elon and Vivek said they’ll be doing it for free, but it sounds like they’re going to be hiring to fill positions within the department. I’m not sure if they’re only hiring volunteers or if those are paid positions.
The prospect of this seems to have upset a fairly vocal Faction of the Dogecoin community so there’s a risk that Faction could grow and become highly adversarial if it’s not handled correctly, so it wouldn’t come without some risks, but if Atsuko approves, then I would love to see us try to work out a fair deal where we can reserve the right to revoke the usage if any of the contract terms are violated.
Feels too early, like pure speculation, but i understand wanting to get ahead of it and get an official stance from the DAO members, in case we do end up making contact with them on the matter.
The very thought makes me feel ick, but if a proper use case is available and offered, I’d want it to go through the DAO for a vote just to be fair, not just a DIC pass through.
We are a community of people across the globe with vastly different beliefs, interests, but our principles are what draw us together.
Doge and politics don’t make sense. I have my doubts regarding longevity of this D.O.G.E. anyway.Asking about a hypothetical approval doesn’t sit right at the moment.
If this is a community committed to doing only good, utilizing decentralization, then no.
I would only vote for this with the note that we must be publicly recognized in return for the license. It’s worthless otherwise.
Because of the political nature of this decision, I would also want very explicit permission and understanding from Atsuko.
Similarly, I would only support with Atsuko’s blessing. My support would also require terms of use should be negotiated with aim to fulfill mission to do only good.
we have a vote up on snapshot right now to ratify the constitution and if we get enough DAO engagement on that it would make sense to bring this topic also to a vote
It does make me feel a bit uneasy thinking about the idea of just giving away the Doge IP to the Dept of Goverment Efficiency. However, some things are worth the risk and if we have Atsuko’s blessing then I give my support but I think it would be super important to set clear perimeters around the use of the image. do only good everyday
Just figured that I’ve replied to this thread in my imagination but not in reality lol
I don’t feel very comfortable with doge linking to anything political, DOGE is almost that (a government entity), if it upholds the dogely values of doing good only, that’s acceptable, but tbh from a non-US perspective I kinda doubt that DOGE will be doing good only without any controversy. This decision is irreversible, we have to be way more careful about it.
Atsuko’s voice matters the most.
Monetary return isn’t my biggest concern, but proper credit and recognition is.
I’m not sure. Whatever we think of Musk and Trumps politics, there is a risk DOGE will be tainted. We have no idea how successful their initiatives will be - just too much reputational risk. Then again, Web3 is all about being permissionless. Maybe just leave it as it is without officially sanctioning its use? In meantime, make the best use of the publicity by doing wonderful apolitical things that help the people most in need.
There are times when people should be political. in fact, every action we take in a way is political! But, i feel this is not it.
. Even if it’s a zero royalty deal, with some reasonable usage stipulations or whatever makes sense depending on what options can be negotiated, if it even gets that far.
