Neiro IP Discussion

I was gonna write a comment, but I think you summed it up perfectly.
Deeper-lying issues have been addressed here too, and the reactions to those make for a good overall insight.

in the community we argued dozens of times argued about what is education and what is draining our energy and unproductive.
Everybody tells him- or herself to not be too driven by emotions sometimes.

I’d argue, for a revolutionary movement we have rather decent manners. I think @Kiththeking would agree, he is french and has done nothing but educate and give us orientation.

In his investigations which got recognized by CrashiusClay and many others, he didn’t even bother to shill us once. That says a lot imo.

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It’s not fair to denigrate the Neirowoof community. The heartfelt and genuine messages we share show how numerous and authentic we are, something bots can’t fake. Neirowoof has always been positive and united, though strong reactions to perceived injustices may have occasionally led to passionate tones… woof!

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These talks about social data points as a metric are really low bar.

Move back to genuine purpose and reason. Mission and authenticity.

Going back and forth on numbers is a zero sum game.

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I dont suppose you would be here still calling Binance underhand/scammers if they had listed your project instead!
Binance has over 240m users, & over 40% of the entire crypto community has an account there. Therefore a high concentration of the hottest/latest narratives being bought up by their users is not that surprising to me. It would manifestly impact the token ‘distribution’ of any in-demand token. This ‘concentration’ is still driven by the binance users buying & holding rather than Binance itself for supply control purposes.
Saying otherwise is just conjecture without any proof, and of course you have none.
& saying it over and over doesnt make it true. Also, highligting mere observations and derived opinions of other projects’ token distribution as above is just that. They bear absolutely no relevance to this discussion.

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I’m going to jump In here to the neirowoof family. Move off this. Don’t bother replying.

We’ve established our points. Started our offer. And got 3 recognitions from the OTD people.

Leave this mentality on X. Where you’re welcome to post proof and make your own point to a global audience.

This back and forth serves no purpose now.

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That would br a relief. Maybe start by deleting your post above?
Thanks

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Here is one real for the ones doubting Bropump community!

Happy holidays to y’all

Welcome to join our cult with a mission!

We got you, together we all can win.

We love the dog
Everyone must win

Much love #bropump

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I wanted to leave a comment. I’m an OG Doge holder who mined it and gave it away for fun back in the day. I once gave away 1M Doge on the old Reddit pay it forward sub. I have watched all four Neiro coins but haven’t bought any because of the PvP.
The solana one that ended in UL was bundled by a cabal and they dumped millions on early buyers.
The ETH one that got binance perps did the same.
The “CTO” on ETH was not actually a CTO but a group of Chinese and Turkish investors with bundled supply. They were led by a guy named GG1nvestments as their public face (a quick search on X will tell you all you need to know about him).
The bropump coin is the only one with a real community and a fair launch. Price action has been bad because they have no KOLs and the chart was bought and sold repeatedly at bad times by whales from the other coins. Despite that, that community stayed intact and never stopped pushing. Many of the memes you see on X and used by all coins were created by them.
I don’t really care which one gets the IP. I don’t own any of them. But I do believe in fairness and think the universe corrects for injustice. I think there’s an opportunity to do the right thing here for a community that never stopped believing.
Merry Christmas all!

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Merry Christmas and happy new year to you too. Thank you for your word brother.

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Hi! I heard about Neiro via my brother and started to research the different communities. In the end I joined the BroPump community after spending time hearing them on some spaces. They sounded so passionate and genuine about helping each other… I am already a builder in the Solana space, and it inspired me to start working on 3D experiences. (I will put my thread up again, seems it got hit by a spam bot).

Anyway here is a pic to wish everyone happiness and peace! Happy Holidays

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Hi my name is Ameero, I am from the UK. I am the CEO and co-founder of Libi Labs, a Solana project. (x.com)

I want to add to the conversation around the Neiro, love for the Own the Doge DAO. Congratulations for safeguarding the IP and legacy for Neiro. Also i love that the owner Atsuko San is centred and given prominence that she deserves.

Libi Labs x Neiro: Building the Future of Interactive Digital Companions

Team & Background
Libi Labs is led by founding members of UK Superteam with deep connections in the Solana ecosystem. Our team has been active in fostering Web3 innovation in the UK and globally through:

  • Being part of major Solana hackathons and educational initiatives
  • Building strong relationships within Solana community
  • Active participation in Superteam’s global expansion efforts
  • Track record of successful Web3 project launches on Solana

Core Technology & Vision

Core Technology & Vision Libi Labs has developed a groundbreaking on-chain 3D and Physics engine that revolutionizes how interactive experiences are created and shared. Our technology stands out through:

  • Browser-based architecture with 95% faster load times compared to traditional engines
  • Cross-platform compatibility from mobile browsers to VR headsets
  • No-code creation tools making 3D development accessible to everyone
  • Dynamic resource management enabling real-time scaling and modifications
  • Winner of Superteam Villa startup competition in Dubai 2024


Neiro chilling at home (just made this medieval castle scene for Neiro)

Neiro Integration Proposal We propose creating an innovative AI pet ecosystem powered by Neiro:

  1. Adaptive AI Pets
  • Evolving Neiro companions that learn and grow with their owners
  • Integration with OwnTheDoge IP in procedurally generated worlds
  • AI-driven personality development based on interaction patterns
  • Companion abilities that expand through both training and collectible upgrades
  1. Interactive World Building
  • AI-assisted creation tools where Neiro guides users through world building
  • Collaborative spaces where multiple Neiro pets can interact
  • Dynamic environments that evolve based on Neiro pet and user activities
  • Neiro companion in AR experiences
  • Integration with existing metaverse platforms through our composable asset system
  1. Monetization & Engagement
  • Tiered pet NFT system with unique growth paths
  • Exclusive digital collectibles including Soulbound NFTs and customization options
  • Interactive storylines that unlock new pet capabilities
  • Community- UGC marketplace featuring Neiro-themed assets

Education & Social Impact Initiatives

  1. Global Education Program
  • Partnering for student development programs
  • University collaborations across UK, Jordan, Palestine, UAE, Saudi Arabia, and Eastern Europe
  • Structured curriculum combining game development, Web3, and AI technologies
  • Student competitions focused on creating Neiro-powered experiences
  1. Humanitarian Gaming Initiative
  • Expansion of existing VR therapy program in conflict zones
  • Development of specialized Neiro 3D Spaces for trauma support
  • Creation of safe, virtual spaces for children affected by conflict
  • Integration of therapeutic elements into animal companion interactions
  1. Community Building
  • Regular game jams featuring Neiro-themed challenges
  • Mentorship programs connecting students with industry professionals
  • Cross-cultural collaboration opportunities through virtual spaces
  • Supporting emerging developers in underserved regions

New Ideas for Consideration

  1. Neiro Education Companions
  • Specialized AI companions designed to help teach coding and 3D design
  • Gamified learning paths with Neiro as an interactive tutor
  • Achievement system tied to educational milestones
  1. Cultural Heritage Preservation
  • Using Libi’s digital twin capabilities to preserve cultural sites
  • Neiro pet companions acting as virtual guides through historical locations
  • Community-driven content creation celebrating diverse cultural heritage
  1. Therapeutic Applications
  • Development of specialized Neiro experiences for various therapeutic needs
  • Collaboration with mental health professionals for evidence-based design
  • Customizable safe spaces for various therapeutic applications
  1. Sustainable Impact Tracking
  • Blockchain-based impact measurement system
  • Transparent reporting of educational and humanitarian outcomes
  • Community-driven governance of social impact initiatives

Strategic Advantages Our unique position in the Solana ecosystem enables:

  • Direct access to Solana community resources and support
  • Existing network of game creators and artists
  • Established channels for talent recruitment through Superteam
  • Fast-track deployment and testing of new features
  • Strong connections with key Solana protocols and projects
  • Ability to leverage Superteam’s global presence for rapid expansion
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Hello, let me start by wishing you a happy holidays, I truly hope you spend time with your loved ones and find time to relax over this holiday. :christmas_tree:

I want to remind you and everyone reading that the purpose of this discussion is to unite as a community that loves Neiro, not to bash one another. It’s important that we focus on what benefits Atsuko and $DOG/OTD the most, rather than getting caught up in a numbers game.

You mentioned that ETH Neiro gets 5 times more likes on X compared to Neiro BroPump. Let’s consider the numbers as of 12/24/2024:

  • BroPump market cap: $4,100,000
  • ETH Neiro market cap: $428,900,000 (104.6x or 10,460% more than BroPump)

Let me add, if you’re wondering where @Smoke’s statement about seeing more engagement comes from, take a look in this very forum. Why don’t we see 5x or 100x more engagement from other communities? From what I can see, maybe five people from communities outside of BroPump are engaged here, and that’s perfectly fine! It’s not about the numbers. Arguing about something so unimportant can easily be spun negatively, and that’s neither wholesome nor aligned with the idea of Doing Only Good Everyday.

To be clear, I don’t think we should be debating Neiro’s future based on how many likes there are on X or their how high their market cap is for that matter! We need to focus on productive ideas and set a clear path for Neiro’s future, not debate who gets more likes on social media.

I really hope this shines light on what matters here and that you reconsider your point. Have a blessed holiday! BroPump!

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Wow! What an underrated post. Coming from an underprivileged background myselff I could definitely get behind the idea of an educational program revolving around Neiro. Not only is this providing real world help but it would expose Neiro to hundreds of thousands! Shoot me a DM on here and let’s connect over X or TG. Would love to help out any way that I can!

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Enough of the baseless fud bashing the CTO please? if some people here are to be believed then Binance has been so careless as to scam its loyal 240m users for a £15m coin flip. The PR R/R alone would be preposterously poor. & as a long time CTO member, i know your narrative of events are complete rubbish @gaveaway1Mdoge…What are you trying to achieve? It’s certainly not education.

The CTO team are extremely transparent
& professional, and they have done a phenomenal job so far imo, proving themselves time and again by gaining over 40 free cex listings, partnerships, strategic setup, legal diligence, charitable foundation & events, and all done in a matter of months. They know how to get things done, & in the right way.

And of course - the global crypto community has established the CTO as current leaders of the Neiro token narrative.

I believe they are as such perfectly placed to enhance OTD $DOG token through leveraging their considerable collective business acumen, existing cex and partnership connections, and working together with OTD to gain instant increased market exposure for $DOG token holders, which would be especially useful at this critical moment in the bull run.

The chat here is definitely on the pumpy side, which is all good, however do also remember that the CTO has large asian and other non-english speaking communities and this is an english-only discussion, so its not that easy for them to contribute meaningfully.

At this stage, i feel that denial of one or the others’ community is pretty pointless, as they all clearly exist. who’s ‘best’ is of course subjective.
What matters is what happens next. PvP has only damaged Neiro to date, and this has to change.
The CTO is established on Eth but it isnt on Sol. I dont speak for the CTO team, however from what i have seen, they are the type of people that would be open to figuring out a way that all legit communities can at least coexist for the mutual benefit of all stakeholders.
The best outcome for OTD, $DOG, Neiro and Atsuko would surely be an approach that puts to bed the negative sentiment, combines and hopefully multiplies the positive aspects of the legit investor communities, & with focus by all on strengthening the $Neiro and $DOG Brands only.

Thats my final 2 cents - & Merry Christmas to one and all. :yellow_heart:

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Well said my friend

As I’ve iterated time and time again.

Solana neiro can do what they want. I’ve never had any issues with them until they started to harass and fud

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All Neiro tokens have extremely different ethics and values. They’re not going to get along. And that’s fine.

Truth is not fud. In any case, what is the truth? That takes intelligence to see. Best thing to do is not to insult the intelligence of anyone and especially not the holders of any token.

Let people decide based on what they see. If you trust their basic intelligence and the information presented is not true. Then there’s nothing to worry about!

In any case. We seem to be looping in this region of issue for almost the entirety of the thread.

Nothing that person said is incorrect. You have a heavy focus on China and Turkey. Elja Boom the person close o the Binance founders is Turkish I believe? And one of the bigger KOLs and accounts that was pushing Neiro ETH. And of course we know the Chinese side pushing it. All the promotional charity work was within Turkey and China at the beginning if I’m not mistaken.

Maybe it’s time to move on? Calling everyone a “fudder” who points out what they see is not effective if I am honest.

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Excellent read Ameero. Imagine charity work with the Solana foundation or at the huge Solana events! The super teams network is huge, they would be able to distribute goodness across the world if we partnered with them. Of course was difficult at such low market cap and with all the other difficulties the community faced. This is one of the most undervalued parts of Neiro bropump to me.

Something sure you could help us all aspire to.

Leaving chain politics aside, there’s a reason Pengu chose Solana chain. The chain has the cool dog BONK. The chain does not have a Shiba or a pure mission token of blue chip proportion yet. Truly untapped area.

A partnership with BONK or Pengu would be so cool.

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Nah the difference between truth and fud is your intention. It’s malicious. I won’t stop calling that out.

Again, you used to interact with me on x pre Binance listing and were “cool” now post Binance listing the cto is no longer a cto

I’m not insulting anyone. Just pointing out that people aren’t making up their own minds because of ideas pushed on them and being told half truths to be in another’s favour

This behaviour really isn’t cool, and as soon as OTD showed signs of dislike toward it there was a change of tone.

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Michael. We’ve called out every inconsistency on three projects and held ourselves to the same regard. Thus we have our ethics and purpose. We’re not the same. There’s an attempt to say all of a sudden bropump Neiro has changed. One look at my X shows I’m still pointing out both inconsistencies in the market and my opinion on many tokens and long term ideas. Many holders voicing their opinions, not all in favour of IP in crypto. Thus democracy.

The bropump people still turn up in droves, people still push, people still come up with many ideas, people still DCA and hold. The change there now is that they’re louder than 2 weeks ago. Possibly due to the favourable recognition of what is community building. The hardest thing to build is the peoples purpose.

I’ve consistently said doing it in here serves very little purpose.

There’s been no personality change. I’m still calling it out on X and people still have their strong beliefs. :handshake:

One thing I’ve noticed is an attempt to call this discussion PVP. It’s depends on what the discussion is and its level of factual basis. “Democracy is too messy I’ll have no part of it”.

Let it breathe. There’s plenty of great ideas. Some disagreements. But either don’t participate in the discussions you don’t like. Or move the conversation in a different direction.

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Well, well, well… look at that. The BroPump community is at it again — STILL actively hating on NeiroCTO. What? Really? I thought BroPump was supposed to be the “innocent” one here — the best, the “REAL” community, the first, the fairest, the most fairly distributed, the most decentralized, the legacy, the ethos, the provenance.
“Loud and active”? I say:
The loudest one in the room is often the weakest, my friends.

And please don’t say, “Don’t take things from Telegram and Twitter here.” No. We’re having a discussion about intellectual property, right? So, this is actually the perfect place to reveal the real intentions of people who have zero interest in Neiro or its legacy.
There’s alot more, I’m just showing the recents.

This is from today, and it’s just one example out of thousands. Their entire community is built on hatred, actively participating in “memes” fueled by animosity and jealousy. They’re all the same. Their sole mission has always been to tear down every single Neiro. But lately, they’ve taken a different tack — suddenly glorifying OTD, desperately trying to secure the IP. But why? To capitalize on the next big thing, of course.

Let me be clear: Collaborating with bropump and potentionally giving them IP rights would be a colossal mistake. They will tarnish and destroy $DOG and OTD with their arrogance and toxic attitude — the so-called “strong community.” For months, they’ve shown no interest in positivity, building, or making meaningful contributions. All they’ve done is spread hate. There is absolutely no future in working with people like this. They will not provide value to you; they will destroy everything you’ve worked for and everything you stand for.

For nearly four months, they’ve harassed other Neiro communities nonstop. They won’t target or criticize for example Hawk Tuah’s obvious rug pull, or any other blatant scams in the space. No, they choose to waste their energy trashing real communities that are actually building something meaningful.

NeiroCTO has been nothing but transparent. There is NOTHING to hide. ZERO. Meanwhile, BroPumps desperately search for ANYTHING to FUD about — Vitalik Buterin, Justin Sun, Binance, Kraken, DWF, Wintermute, Gotbit, Coinbase, DEX volume, you name it. Everything NeiroCTO interacts with, bropump instantly throw shade on. Daily. No matter what NeiroCTO does publicly on Twitter — whether it’s shilling, bullposting, collaborating, or fact-sharing — BroPumps always emerge with hate, FUD, and pure nonsense.

The reality? BroPump’s “community” — 95% of them don’t care about Neiro or anything it stands for. All they see is “OMG, this is the next 100x,” which explains their behavior and utter lack of real growth. Most of them abandoned the project early. They were all in it for the wrong reasons, spreading hatred toward every other Neiro along the way. They couldn’t stay because they knew this approach wasn’t sustainable. Do Only Hate Every day (DoHE).

The few that stuck around didn’t suddenly become builders or visionaries. No. They simply kept the hate alive. They never cared to build anything of substance or stand for anything meaningful.

Now, in a desperate move, with the IP discussion looming, they ping all their “jeet” buddies who went “fishing” and never returned. “HEY, HEY, BUY BACK IN — WE’RE GOING TO 100X, WE’RE TAKING DOWN ALL THE OTHER NEIROS NOW, IT’S NOW OR NEVER! AND HEY, LET’S ASK CHATGPT A GAZILLION QUESTIONS TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN IMPRESS OTD AND SPAM THEIR FORUMS WITH ALL THAT.”

XDDDDDD

And the cherry on top:

“HEY, HEY, BRO PUMPS, LET’S PRETEND WE’RE INNOCENT AND CARING PEOPLE. DON’T MAKE FUD AND HATRED IN FRONT OF OTD — THEY CANNOT KNOW OUR REAL INTENTION IS NEGATIVE AND TOXIC.”

So, what happened? They got incredibly upset the other week when one of their members joined a space with OTD and immediately started FUDding NeiroCTO. OTD didn’t appreciate it. They booted him from the space. But the BroPumps? They got scared of “missing their chance,” so they promptly booted him from Telegram and Twitter. Why? Because he didn’t realize that BroPump’s new strategy is to pretend to be saints, all while “glazing” their way to the IP.

Truly disgusting behavior.

A textbook example of what to stay far, far away from.

It’s probably the reason they have the least recognition among all the Neiro communities. Genuine people who once promoted their project have since left. And when they left, guess what BroPump did? They threw mud at them too. One good example is a female on Twitter — I won’t go into specifics, but her name is something like “Princess.” Those who know, know. And mark my words — if they lose the IP, they’ll probably throw mud at OTD too. Would not be a suprise.